Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:33 pm by globalturboPOOFness for JUN 29: "WE DON'T NEED NO MORE TROUBLE"
Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
Date: Sunday, 29-Jun-2014 21:04:55
In Response To: POOFness for JUN 1: "TIME KEEPS ON SLIPPIN' (hobie)
Hi, Folks -
Received via e-mail:
**********************************************************
-------- Original Message --------
From: 2goforth
To: 2goforth
Subject: Fwd: WE DON'T NEED NO MORE TROUBLE
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 20:35:11 -0400
"War/ No More Trouble"
Artist: Playing For Change
Album: Playing For Change
Genre: Ska
Heyo! SONGLYRICS just got interactive. Highlight. Review: RIFF-it.
RIFF-it good.
Listen while you read!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgWFxFg7-GU
Read more at
http://www.songlyrics.com/playing-for-change/war-no-more-trouble-lyrics/#Kycd2SgLJ67DTEXU.99
Greetings and Salutations:
POOF SAID:
Even though you've heard this for the umpteenth time -- your long vigil is about over. You are either doing your life, living from grace and honor, from contribution to your own or your community, or, you think you can't live until you have some of that mooooolah in hand. Get real! Grow up! Money does not solve your dis-ease issues--issues of unresolved conflicts, nor those of health issues that you have not paid attention to. It will solve the need to pay indebtedness yes, but unless you have an intimate relationship with money wherein you control it, know that you don't work for money--you make money work for you-- then it will control your activities.
It has always been the plan that you utilize this time to become a much more effective money manager. If you need one-- this is the time to select a good one, or learn to be it. Learn. The biblical story known as the Parable of the Talents, (Matthew 25:15) which could have been referenced here months ago is not too out of date. Read it and/or get someone to tell you about it. Which one of the three men receiving talents/gifts/money are you? Do you know how to leverage? Not too late to learn. But your time is quite short, actually.
The players are now gathered around the table and the cards have, as of this month, been played. The winners are known and that includes You. What is your reaction! How do you define your priorities and those of your close network? Who knows what you are going to be about and how will they deal with your new power. Money is power. It holds a lot of surprising stress for those who have not done their ground work. So this is very much the final message that you will get about all of this.
From here on it will be enjoy the sunsets. Feel the breeze on your face, look beyond the horizon and be good to your self and kind to your associates. All of them. You are expected to be mature, to act maturely...and to be a part of the unfolding consciousness of the enlighted ones. ...Poof....
The Bright Side, by Bernard Dozier ++ Sunday June 29, 2014
>
> Giving Is Present Moment Creation
> Creation was (is) a divine explosion of incalculable
> gratitude of indescribable scope radiating from Cen-
> ter to Circumference on an infinite scale. It was (is)
> the giving of Divine Essence, Substance, Being, Life,
> and Form to all that we sense, imagine, and intuit.
>
> Why we give is rooted in the Creator and the Crea-
> tion, but to do justice to Him our thinking must ex-
> pand far beyond Him serving as Host and Landlord
> of Heaven. The God of Creation is Principle(unchan-
> ging Lawfulness), Omniscience/Omnipresence/Om-
> nipotence, expressing as universal Truth.
>
> Giving, then, is the Creator's imprint--symbolic and
> literal--on us and on our every transaction. Our Crea-
> tor's Mind is a vast Givingness, and our mind operates
> like His. Our giving enmeshes us in Creation, which
> continues as Creative Principle--Cause and Effect.
>
> Creation is a cosmic, unceasing Cause and Effect, a Giv-
> ing and Receiving without end. Giving and receiving are
> as intertwined as inhaling and exhaling, and are just as
> damaging if one is given priority over the other.
>
> Being attuned with The Infinite, our joy in giving and
> receiving is His joy. And that means giving happily of
> everything in a joy-created Creation. Giving was Spir-
> itual Principle long before churches insisted on being
> receivers--and they couldn't not be if they gave Truth,
> Love, and Light the way Jesus did. But giving goes be-
> yond religion. It applies everywhere. Give your good-
> ness (in any way, shape, or form) anywhere and it will
> return, increased (in the way, shape, and form that
> meets your real need and desire) from everywhere.
Thank you for whatever you can give and take whatever you need from our writing...Paypal.com account to send to is goneforthfornow@gmail.com ...any problem please e-mail 2goforth@safe-mail.net ....Consultations via phone are also
available thru the above address. Thank you, Susan
ZAP SAYS;
HI ALL
THE PIGS OF CHANGE (WINDS TOO) ARE HERE.
THE BANKERS AND REGULATORS (I.M.F., FED, U.S.T, C.T., B.I.S., WORLD BANK, U.N., M M.O.U.S.E., AND OTHERS) HAVE GATHERED LAST WEEK IN BEIJING TO DO THE FINAL ITEMS REQUIRED BEFORE THE RESETS CAN KICK IN AND TAKE EFFECT.
THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE RESULTS OF THIS EFFORT ARE TOMORROW, JUNE 30.
ON JULY 1 (TUESDAY), THESE RESULTS WILL TAKE EFFECT.
WHAT ARE THESE RESULTS AND WHAT IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT ALL ABOUT?
ONE WORD.
PIGS.
SO THE PURPLE ONES WILL BEGIN THEIR FINAL APPROACH AND THE FUNDS RELEASES WILL BE DONE. THAT MEANS THAT WE ARE IN GCR MODE WITH THE GLOBAL RESET NOT FAR AWAY.
HISTORIC BOND REDEMPTION PAYMENTS WILL BE DONE, DINAR AND DONG PRIVATE PLACEMENT THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING TO START PAYING WILL BE DONE, SETTLEMENTS FROM THE PROGRAMS WILL BE DONE, AND IN GENERAL MONEY WILL FLOW.
GOOD PIGS.
THEY EAT VEGETABLES I UNDERSTAND. PARSNIPS, TURNIPS AND SUCH.
IT IS FORECAST THAT BESIDES DEAD BANKERS, MANY VEGETABLES WILL DISAPPEAR. MOST ARRESTED, BUT SOME EATEN.
SO, THAT IS ALL THE NEWS I CAN SHARE ON THAT TOPIC, AND SORRY IT IS SO GENERAL, BUT THE MEETING ALONE, SO SECRET, TELLS YOU A LOT.
SO THIS IS THE FABULOUS NEWS FOR THIS WEEK, AND A FEW RESPONSES ONLY.
Dear ZAP,
After reading about about all the complaints, I thought it appropriate to speak up.
I know that you do not need a defender but I would like to say thank you for your time and concern for others.
I trust that you do the best that you can and no one with a right heart is asking for more than that.
Those who seem to believe that everything should be served on a platter to their liking, just don't have the right heart to weather the storm.
As a result they prefer to bring everyone else down with them just so that they can feel right about being wrong. But even in that they will not feel right when the time comes. But they want their satisfaction now... to their own ruined heart.
Normally I wouldn't say much about this but apparently so many people have expressed to you his sourness of heart that it is now taking its toll. For that I am truly sorry.
The bitter root of defilement can be very damaging. The cure for them is to just stop listening to you. But they continue and when things don't come to pass as planned, they look to make others more miserable than themselves.
There is no justification in any of that.
I have no questions for you. Just saying thanks for being there for those with the right heart to be encouraged by your time, help, and enlightenment.
Blessings,
GM
THANKS FOR THAT. BUT THERE IS ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER….WHILE IT IS TRUE THAT SUCH NEGATIVITY IS DEFILING AND ALL THAT, YOU HAVE TO LET THAT EXPRESSION. IF YOU DO NOT, YOU WILL NOT RECOGNIZED THE BALANCE INHERENT IN WHAT WE ALL DO – WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE LIGHT AND THE DARK, AND INTERESTINGLY, SINCE ALL IS LOVE AND COMES FROM THAT ENERGY (WHAT ID GOD), YOU MUST RECOGNIZE THE DIMINISHED LOVE THAT IS THE DEFILEMENT. IT IS DARK, BUT THE DARK SERVES THE LIGHT. AT ALL TIMES. I AM JUST HAPPY I HAVE A POINT OF REFERENCE TO SEE THE BRIGHT LIGHT OPPOSITE THE DARK AND GAIN BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
For Zap
So as more information comes out one has to do their best to discern what is real and what "Next Crazy" is creating their own fame on the internet as a person that knows what is going on, or are they on some kind of ego trip just looking to gain some notoriety .
Anyway I hear too much and for too long without any real change in the world that I and all of us want so badly. But here I share a video of Ron Van Dyke supposedly speaking to a representative of the Dragon Family. Now I like Ron and have been listening to him from time to time for years I think he is a good soul and wants what all of us who are aware of the conditions in the world are and do want to see change. I agree with most of what Ron says.
Here he is speaking to the Ambassador of the Dragon Family REAllY? WELL i LIKE WHAT THE aMBASSADOR says and the underlying spiritual message he has but is it REALLY the Ambassador or some other person portraying as one.
IS this the same person or group of people you speak to and is the message consistent ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWxFbYj9hr4
Of course I would love to believe that all this is being taken care of and this long journey of 18 years is over but are the people we are hearing from really in the know and are really making the change to rid the planet of the slime that has controlled things for way to long. SO many promises and again I hear the Treasury note is Cleared for release . Again! BOOM!
Okay so then a day later my buddy Ron comes out and says...
Dragon Family cannot release funds until all the Cabal is eliminated or they will again end up with all the Cashola! And they can't do this until 2017 ! #####! And we hear you say. DONE DEAL!! Funds Released ! Double BOOM! So what is it Double Boom or #####?
I know you will say Double Boom!
DOUBLE BOOM. DOUBLE BOOM.
IT WILL HAPPEN, AND HAPPEN SOON.
IT WILL NOT WAIT, IT WILL NOT FROWN.
IT WILL COME HERE LIKE GRINNING CLOWN.
TAKE HEART, REJOICE, FOR IT IS DONE.
AND SOON WE ALL WILL HAVE MUCH FUN.
But what is really the truth? My head is spinning . Visions of the Exorcist :-( So will your project start on the 15th as promised? OR be delayed again? I have one in and would love to get started at least I wouldn't be sitting on my thumbs.
IF YOU DO SIT ON A THUMB, DO NOT ROTATE.
So give it up. Show me a Treasury Note. Something to see the results, big results.. but wait the RV...Hmm still not seeing Just a bunch of Clowns In IRAQ probably Controlled by the Cabal, they would have to be considering their behavior.. Can you say Retards! Yes the World has gone mad I just need some real meat to sink my teeth into. SO you Got the Beef Sir Zapola?
( just a little sarcasm .. I think you know well ) Peace Out!
THE TRN IS TAKING THE PLACE OF THE CABAL SCHEME OF THE SDR (SPECIAL DRAWING RIGHTS) WHICH WOULD HAVE CONTINUED THE ENSLAVEMENT. THE TRN WILL BE USED MUCH LIKE THE 100,000 GOLD CERTIFICATES OF THE 30’S TO SETTLE BETWEEN FED BANKS AND COUNTRIES, AND SUPPORT THE GOLD BACKING OF THE REGULAR USD. ALTERNATIVELY PUT, THE TRN IS A METHODOLOGY OF TRANSFERRING METAL BACKING TO THE FIAT USD TO MAKE IT WORK IN A BASEL III COMPLIANT WORLD.
We are Forever in the Matrix until the Truth is revealed... Then it's just another Wizard of Oz Story a Mere Illusion
IT IS ALL GOOD. THIS NEXT WEEK WILL SE THE BEGINNING OF THE RESET. THE GLOBAL MATRIX FUNDS ARE IN PROGRESS OF BEING RELEASED. BE HAPPY. IT HAS INDEED BEGUN.
THE PURPLE PIGS ARE WITH YOU.
IN LOVE AND LIGHT IN OUR SERVICE
ZAP
“GOD IS; I AM; WE ARE”
“BE GOOD, BE LEGAL, TELL TRUTH”
Copyright ZAP 2014
Some interesting links: Change is on the Horizon's
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=changes+on+theHorizon's+u-tube&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WxFbY9hr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?V=nEWfVD3bOH4
Love and Kisses,
Susan and Staff
=====
--hobie
Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
Date: Sunday, 29-Jun-2014 21:04:55
In Response To: POOFness for JUN 1: "TIME KEEPS ON SLIPPIN' (hobie)
Hi, Folks -
Received via e-mail:
**********************************************************
-------- Original Message --------
From: 2goforth
To: 2goforth
Subject: Fwd: WE DON'T NEED NO MORE TROUBLE
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 20:35:11 -0400
"War/ No More Trouble"
Artist: Playing For Change
Album: Playing For Change
Genre: Ska
Heyo! SONGLYRICS just got interactive. Highlight. Review: RIFF-it.
RIFF-it good.
Listen while you read!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgWFxFg7-GU
Read more at
http://www.songlyrics.com/playing-for-change/war-no-more-trouble-lyrics/#Kycd2SgLJ67DTEXU.99
Greetings and Salutations:
POOF SAID:
Even though you've heard this for the umpteenth time -- your long vigil is about over. You are either doing your life, living from grace and honor, from contribution to your own or your community, or, you think you can't live until you have some of that mooooolah in hand. Get real! Grow up! Money does not solve your dis-ease issues--issues of unresolved conflicts, nor those of health issues that you have not paid attention to. It will solve the need to pay indebtedness yes, but unless you have an intimate relationship with money wherein you control it, know that you don't work for money--you make money work for you-- then it will control your activities.
It has always been the plan that you utilize this time to become a much more effective money manager. If you need one-- this is the time to select a good one, or learn to be it. Learn. The biblical story known as the Parable of the Talents, (Matthew 25:15) which could have been referenced here months ago is not too out of date. Read it and/or get someone to tell you about it. Which one of the three men receiving talents/gifts/money are you? Do you know how to leverage? Not too late to learn. But your time is quite short, actually.
The players are now gathered around the table and the cards have, as of this month, been played. The winners are known and that includes You. What is your reaction! How do you define your priorities and those of your close network? Who knows what you are going to be about and how will they deal with your new power. Money is power. It holds a lot of surprising stress for those who have not done their ground work. So this is very much the final message that you will get about all of this.
From here on it will be enjoy the sunsets. Feel the breeze on your face, look beyond the horizon and be good to your self and kind to your associates. All of them. You are expected to be mature, to act maturely...and to be a part of the unfolding consciousness of the enlighted ones. ...Poof....
The Bright Side, by Bernard Dozier ++ Sunday June 29, 2014
>
> Giving Is Present Moment Creation
> Creation was (is) a divine explosion of incalculable
> gratitude of indescribable scope radiating from Cen-
> ter to Circumference on an infinite scale. It was (is)
> the giving of Divine Essence, Substance, Being, Life,
> and Form to all that we sense, imagine, and intuit.
>
> Why we give is rooted in the Creator and the Crea-
> tion, but to do justice to Him our thinking must ex-
> pand far beyond Him serving as Host and Landlord
> of Heaven. The God of Creation is Principle(unchan-
> ging Lawfulness), Omniscience/Omnipresence/Om-
> nipotence, expressing as universal Truth.
>
> Giving, then, is the Creator's imprint--symbolic and
> literal--on us and on our every transaction. Our Crea-
> tor's Mind is a vast Givingness, and our mind operates
> like His. Our giving enmeshes us in Creation, which
> continues as Creative Principle--Cause and Effect.
>
> Creation is a cosmic, unceasing Cause and Effect, a Giv-
> ing and Receiving without end. Giving and receiving are
> as intertwined as inhaling and exhaling, and are just as
> damaging if one is given priority over the other.
>
> Being attuned with The Infinite, our joy in giving and
> receiving is His joy. And that means giving happily of
> everything in a joy-created Creation. Giving was Spir-
> itual Principle long before churches insisted on being
> receivers--and they couldn't not be if they gave Truth,
> Love, and Light the way Jesus did. But giving goes be-
> yond religion. It applies everywhere. Give your good-
> ness (in any way, shape, or form) anywhere and it will
> return, increased (in the way, shape, and form that
> meets your real need and desire) from everywhere.
Thank you for whatever you can give and take whatever you need from our writing...Paypal.com account to send to is goneforthfornow@gmail.com ...any problem please e-mail 2goforth@safe-mail.net ....Consultations via phone are also
available thru the above address. Thank you, Susan
ZAP SAYS;
HI ALL
THE PIGS OF CHANGE (WINDS TOO) ARE HERE.
THE BANKERS AND REGULATORS (I.M.F., FED, U.S.T, C.T., B.I.S., WORLD BANK, U.N., M M.O.U.S.E., AND OTHERS) HAVE GATHERED LAST WEEK IN BEIJING TO DO THE FINAL ITEMS REQUIRED BEFORE THE RESETS CAN KICK IN AND TAKE EFFECT.
THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE RESULTS OF THIS EFFORT ARE TOMORROW, JUNE 30.
ON JULY 1 (TUESDAY), THESE RESULTS WILL TAKE EFFECT.
WHAT ARE THESE RESULTS AND WHAT IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT ALL ABOUT?
ONE WORD.
PIGS.
SO THE PURPLE ONES WILL BEGIN THEIR FINAL APPROACH AND THE FUNDS RELEASES WILL BE DONE. THAT MEANS THAT WE ARE IN GCR MODE WITH THE GLOBAL RESET NOT FAR AWAY.
HISTORIC BOND REDEMPTION PAYMENTS WILL BE DONE, DINAR AND DONG PRIVATE PLACEMENT THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING TO START PAYING WILL BE DONE, SETTLEMENTS FROM THE PROGRAMS WILL BE DONE, AND IN GENERAL MONEY WILL FLOW.
GOOD PIGS.
THEY EAT VEGETABLES I UNDERSTAND. PARSNIPS, TURNIPS AND SUCH.
IT IS FORECAST THAT BESIDES DEAD BANKERS, MANY VEGETABLES WILL DISAPPEAR. MOST ARRESTED, BUT SOME EATEN.
SO, THAT IS ALL THE NEWS I CAN SHARE ON THAT TOPIC, AND SORRY IT IS SO GENERAL, BUT THE MEETING ALONE, SO SECRET, TELLS YOU A LOT.
SO THIS IS THE FABULOUS NEWS FOR THIS WEEK, AND A FEW RESPONSES ONLY.
Dear ZAP,
After reading about about all the complaints, I thought it appropriate to speak up.
I know that you do not need a defender but I would like to say thank you for your time and concern for others.
I trust that you do the best that you can and no one with a right heart is asking for more than that.
Those who seem to believe that everything should be served on a platter to their liking, just don't have the right heart to weather the storm.
As a result they prefer to bring everyone else down with them just so that they can feel right about being wrong. But even in that they will not feel right when the time comes. But they want their satisfaction now... to their own ruined heart.
Normally I wouldn't say much about this but apparently so many people have expressed to you his sourness of heart that it is now taking its toll. For that I am truly sorry.
The bitter root of defilement can be very damaging. The cure for them is to just stop listening to you. But they continue and when things don't come to pass as planned, they look to make others more miserable than themselves.
There is no justification in any of that.
I have no questions for you. Just saying thanks for being there for those with the right heart to be encouraged by your time, help, and enlightenment.
Blessings,
GM
THANKS FOR THAT. BUT THERE IS ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER….WHILE IT IS TRUE THAT SUCH NEGATIVITY IS DEFILING AND ALL THAT, YOU HAVE TO LET THAT EXPRESSION. IF YOU DO NOT, YOU WILL NOT RECOGNIZED THE BALANCE INHERENT IN WHAT WE ALL DO – WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE LIGHT AND THE DARK, AND INTERESTINGLY, SINCE ALL IS LOVE AND COMES FROM THAT ENERGY (WHAT ID GOD), YOU MUST RECOGNIZE THE DIMINISHED LOVE THAT IS THE DEFILEMENT. IT IS DARK, BUT THE DARK SERVES THE LIGHT. AT ALL TIMES. I AM JUST HAPPY I HAVE A POINT OF REFERENCE TO SEE THE BRIGHT LIGHT OPPOSITE THE DARK AND GAIN BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
For Zap
So as more information comes out one has to do their best to discern what is real and what "Next Crazy" is creating their own fame on the internet as a person that knows what is going on, or are they on some kind of ego trip just looking to gain some notoriety .
Anyway I hear too much and for too long without any real change in the world that I and all of us want so badly. But here I share a video of Ron Van Dyke supposedly speaking to a representative of the Dragon Family. Now I like Ron and have been listening to him from time to time for years I think he is a good soul and wants what all of us who are aware of the conditions in the world are and do want to see change. I agree with most of what Ron says.
Here he is speaking to the Ambassador of the Dragon Family REAllY? WELL i LIKE WHAT THE aMBASSADOR says and the underlying spiritual message he has but is it REALLY the Ambassador or some other person portraying as one.
IS this the same person or group of people you speak to and is the message consistent ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWxFbYj9hr4
Of course I would love to believe that all this is being taken care of and this long journey of 18 years is over but are the people we are hearing from really in the know and are really making the change to rid the planet of the slime that has controlled things for way to long. SO many promises and again I hear the Treasury note is Cleared for release . Again! BOOM!
Okay so then a day later my buddy Ron comes out and says...
Dragon Family cannot release funds until all the Cabal is eliminated or they will again end up with all the Cashola! And they can't do this until 2017 ! #####! And we hear you say. DONE DEAL!! Funds Released ! Double BOOM! So what is it Double Boom or #####?
I know you will say Double Boom!
DOUBLE BOOM. DOUBLE BOOM.
IT WILL HAPPEN, AND HAPPEN SOON.
IT WILL NOT WAIT, IT WILL NOT FROWN.
IT WILL COME HERE LIKE GRINNING CLOWN.
TAKE HEART, REJOICE, FOR IT IS DONE.
AND SOON WE ALL WILL HAVE MUCH FUN.
But what is really the truth? My head is spinning . Visions of the Exorcist :-( So will your project start on the 15th as promised? OR be delayed again? I have one in and would love to get started at least I wouldn't be sitting on my thumbs.
IF YOU DO SIT ON A THUMB, DO NOT ROTATE.
So give it up. Show me a Treasury Note. Something to see the results, big results.. but wait the RV...Hmm still not seeing Just a bunch of Clowns In IRAQ probably Controlled by the Cabal, they would have to be considering their behavior.. Can you say Retards! Yes the World has gone mad I just need some real meat to sink my teeth into. SO you Got the Beef Sir Zapola?
( just a little sarcasm .. I think you know well ) Peace Out!
THE TRN IS TAKING THE PLACE OF THE CABAL SCHEME OF THE SDR (SPECIAL DRAWING RIGHTS) WHICH WOULD HAVE CONTINUED THE ENSLAVEMENT. THE TRN WILL BE USED MUCH LIKE THE 100,000 GOLD CERTIFICATES OF THE 30’S TO SETTLE BETWEEN FED BANKS AND COUNTRIES, AND SUPPORT THE GOLD BACKING OF THE REGULAR USD. ALTERNATIVELY PUT, THE TRN IS A METHODOLOGY OF TRANSFERRING METAL BACKING TO THE FIAT USD TO MAKE IT WORK IN A BASEL III COMPLIANT WORLD.
We are Forever in the Matrix until the Truth is revealed... Then it's just another Wizard of Oz Story a Mere Illusion
IT IS ALL GOOD. THIS NEXT WEEK WILL SE THE BEGINNING OF THE RESET. THE GLOBAL MATRIX FUNDS ARE IN PROGRESS OF BEING RELEASED. BE HAPPY. IT HAS INDEED BEGUN.
THE PURPLE PIGS ARE WITH YOU.
IN LOVE AND LIGHT IN OUR SERVICE
ZAP
“GOD IS; I AM; WE ARE”
“BE GOOD, BE LEGAL, TELL TRUTH”
Copyright ZAP 2014
Some interesting links: Change is on the Horizon's
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=changes+on+theHorizon's+u-tube&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WxFbY9hr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?V=nEWfVD3bOH4
Love and Kisses,
Susan and Staff
=====
--hobie
