Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:33 pm by globalturbo
"Yosef and Anonymity" - Mon. PM WSOMN Thoughts
3/28/2016 03:33:00 PM Thoughts, WSOMNUPDATED AS OF 6:32 PM ET, more replies added.
WSOMN
stargazer:
In my book, Yusef (or what ever the way he writes his name) is a wonderful man with lots of knowledge. He is a Light Worker. He has help many in the past and will continue to do so. I think it is an honor to have him with us.
He is guiding us to the RV and more
Grandma:
I personally feel that anyone that bashes someone else should be ashamed. If you don't have nice things to say be quiet. That's what I was always taught. Cause it will come back around and bite you in the a**.
The old saying what goes around will come back around. True story! We are not here to bash people. Take it for what it is worth, don't like it go somewhere else like many of our members have done.
ADMINBILL:
WHOEVER THIS PERSON IS HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE FOUND. THOSE INVOLVED WITHIN THE CHINESE GROUP HERE AS THEIR MOUTH PIECE HAVE BEEN ASKED BY THE CHINESE TO FIND OUT WHO HE TALKING TO AND ON WHAT LEVEL BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. THE PHONE HE USES IS A THROW AWAY PHONE WHICH ALWAYS MAKES ME WONDER. LAST WEEK I ASKED HIM TO PROVIDE THE BASIC DETAILS OF WHERE HE IS GETTING HIS INFORMATION AT THE REQUEST OF THE CHINESE WHICH HE REFUSED. HE MAY OR MAY NOT BE WHO HE CLAIMS TO BE BUT IN THIS DAY AND AGE AS SOON AS SOMEONE WRAPS THEMSELVES IN THE VEIL OF SPIRITUALITY THE MORE SUSPICIOUS I BECOME OF THEIR INTENT. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS CONNECTED TO MONEY
Grateful2Jesus:
Like I was saying about eating off of someone else's plate, IKO and all other intel providers are going to be given false information because they are doing their best to vet and make sure that they don't look like fools, but that does not mean that it will not happen. Sowing discord among the brethren is one of Satan's most divisive tool, and if the base of any structure or organization is not solid, then the enemy will be able to slow down, or stop any movement.
We are all here for a reason, and if it is just for money, then you will be a easier target for those that don't want us to have a seat at the table, like a dog just wants to throw us a bone or two. I am NOT trying to insite a riot, but I am just saying we all need to put our trust in the only One that really has the power to push the button, and His name is Jesus.
Read Proverbs chapter 6.
So take your complaints to Jesus, because He knows all of our needs and desires, and He will allow us to receive our blessing when He takes care of the bad guy's.
Matthew 11: 28-30.
Have a blessed day.
Respectfully,
In the name of His Majesty Jesus our Christ.
vanman:
ISAIAH 8:20 SAYS "TO THE LAW AND TO THE TESTIMONY! IF THEY DO NOT SPEAK ACCORDING TO THIS WORD, IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM."
I REMEMBER TERRY K AND HOW HE KEPT PUSHING THE RESET AND I JUST KNEW HE HAD THE WRONG AGENDA -THAT
HE WAS UP TO NO GOOD, EVEN WHEN MANY WERE BUYING HIS MESSAGE. NOW WE KNOW WHAT HE WAS ALL ABOUT.
THE MAJORITY OF US NOW ON THE OTHER HAND WOULD AGREE THAT YOSEF NOT ONLY GAVE WHAT INFO HE WAS
GIVEN, BUT HE HAD A MUCH GREATER MESSAGE WHICH HAD GREAT LIGHT. IT WAS A HUMBLE, A SERVING, AND A
SPIRITUAL MESSAGE. THIS WAS USING OUR NEW WEALTH TO HELP OTHERS. TO PAY IT FORWARD. NOW DOES THAT
SOUND LIKE SOMEONE WHO HAS AN EVIL AGENDA? I BELIEVE GIVEN A CHANCE TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH HIS
INTEL, THAT WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON. HE IS READING ALL THE NEGATIVITY ABOUT HIM
AND PROBABLY DOESN'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED OR HELP US ANY MORE. "DON'T SMACK THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU"
THANK YOU YOUSEF AND GOD BLESS, RON G
ADMINBILL:
MAN, THIS THREAD MAY GET INTENSE. THE PROCESS OF THE GCR AND RV ARE MAN MADE AND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT HAS BEEN MAN MADE. IF THE LORD WAS IN CONTROL IT WOULD ALREADY HAVE HAPPENED IN MY OPINION. HE WAS, AFTER ALL, NOT ALL THAT THRILLED WITH THE MONEY CHANGERS IN THE TEMPLE. WE ARE BLESSED TO BE A PART OF IT. WE WERE LED TO THIS POINT BY HIM FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND THE WORLD AS A WHOLE. BUT THE ACTUALLY PROCESS HAS BEEN IN THE HANDS OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO USE THEIR FREE AGENCY, WHICH MEANS THEIR EDUCATION, THEIR RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND, THEIR FAMILY BACKGROUND AND THEIR CONNECTIONS IN BUSINESS TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
twoguns336:
Agreed. Humans most always kill the messengers.
ADMINBILL:
SO MY GOOD FRIENDS YOU FEEL PERFECTLY SAFE BASING YOUR FUTURE ON A SIGNAL PERSON'S INFORMATION THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW BECAUSE THEIR MESSAGE RESONANTS WITH YOUR OWN PERSONAL VIEWS. IS THAT RIGHT. AS TONY WOULD SAY. NOW WHO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TOO?
sparke:
Ditto!!! Admin Bill, Ditto!!!
To many people in the chatroom try to force their opinions, beliefs, whatever they may be on others and basically ... lets keep this simple people.
We all got in this RV/GCR the for financial gain. I don't need to know what you intend to do with it and you don't need to know what I intend to do with it.
We do need to be patient with the process, however long it may be!
SilverFox:
The truth is all anyone of us wants.
Yosef preached truth & love!
Tis the season...
twoguns336:
Lots to discern for sure. People used to hang on every word of OkieOilman and Bulldog75. Then Tony and others. You said yourself that this was in the hands of humans....and we all fall short of the Grace of God.... So we listen, we try to understand. That's all.....
I am not a rock thrower....
Like Fox Muldaur (XFiles)....."I want to believe..."
crushr13:
My bottom line is that in a group like this, some info sources are going to be liked, and some not liked. Some will be greatly agreed with, and some not so much. Some will come with good info and some will have made up info. We will not know what is what until all is completed. And we will still have decisions to make on what we will do based on that information, good and bad.
What I try to do is listen to the info. See what makes sense and what does not. And if it does not, is it possible or feasible? And temper that to the information. I try to give everyone respect, if only outwardly. And if I disagree with some of the info, I try to respectfully challenge the information, not the provider (they will get theirs if it is all false, anyway). Or I respectfully agree to disagree.
Those that provide good information will be cheered, especially once all of this comes to pass. And those that are providing information they are making up or are providing as disinformation, or whatever, will get theirs, as karma usually gets them in the end.
So, if I may suggest, be respectful to info providers, and, if needed, agree to disagree. Then we get more information. And the good information will build and correct any minor flaws, as any info flowing from people tends to have. And the bad information will hopefully become more visible and clear. And we can then keep a clear and rational head, with which to make good financial decisions for our future. (Thanks for the chance to share my thoughts on this.)
Imperium:
Take nothing personally.
Mel Money:
I hate when intel in cloaked in spirituality and faith. I believe in God but it's not just about that. Why don't we know more about Yosef? I like parts of his message but it still have a tinge of something I can't put my finger on.
Grateful2Jesus:
Mel Money, as twoguns has said, it is all about anonymity. I don't know anyone but Tony Renfrow, and Ray Renfrow that has given their full real name, address, and phone #s on a open conference call, or chats sites, do you?
I am not defending Yosef, because he is a grown man, it is almost like the blind man that Jesus healed, were asked by the Pharasees who healed your son, but his parents did not want to say that it was Jesus that healed their son, because they did not want to be put out of the Synagogue.
We are instructed in Ephesians chapter 6:10-21 to put on the whole armor of God, so that we can speak boldly as we ought to speak. The opposition will come when we choose to speak truth, or lies: I just want to make sure that I am speaking the truth.
I am sort of responsible for over 100 people that I brought into this mess, and have like many of you, have lost friends, and a so called reputation with family, because I wanted to help them more than they really wanted help, because I am a Christian first, and 2nd a believer in the gcr. So many will be left behind, in more ways than one, but when the 800 #s come out, I will be using discernment on who to contact. It will trickle down, that will be the difference between the contract, market, and international rates. As for them going to heaven, well let's say, that's NOT MY CALL.
Everyone have spiritually prosperous future.
Respectfully,
Grateful2Jesus
Skysister23:
Yosef told us in the very first call he could not give a lot of his information because of the clients he represented. Doing so would jeopardize those relationships and the NDA's he had signed. He gave some background that he had worked in the financial realm for I think he said 20 or 30 years. He said he'd only been in the currency I think he said 10 years, and he can not speak to any platform information because of these relationships.
I feel he was more interested in saving souls with this money than in making money and his messages were directed more in that way.
He also stated he was asked to come forth at this time near the end to help people understand the history of this blessing. He said he's been blessed to meet some of the Chinese elders and has studied and learned their history over many years. He has never said to my knowledge who asked him to come forward but Imo it was the Chinese elders/Wells Fargo. This is me only putting pieces together and I could be totally wrong. Somewhere I read he is a friend of Robert on Gerry's call. Robert is in the banking business, (I think WF) Robert knows about platforms. Yosef can't discuss platforms, seems to know extensive history etc on Chinese elders, WF exchange and banking procedures, is very spiritual, comforting and has a message of peace and love.
I for one loved when came on any call. His perspective was always you were brought to this blessing because you had the right heart and mind to do what needed to be done for the good of the world. He professed to not need a lot but did feel everyone should go for as much as you could because the more you had the more you could do. Don't ask for more than you can mentally, emotionally handle. Don't sell your soul for the money but don't be afraid to ask for more than what you think you need to carry out your goals. He never spoke from a place of fear but always from a place of love.
Imo that is not someone who wanted to lead us astray. Like anything, familiarity breeds contempt. The more we heard from him the more we wanted to know about him. When he continued to respect his own privacy and that of those he represented we began to discredit him. I think this is a great disservice that we do. When this RV happens and we want to remain private so our lives stay normal will we face the same thing. No because we aren't putting ourselves out there in that position. Yosef chose to help us as did Tony, Ray, Bruce, Iko, Martha, Wolfy etc and look at what they have all gone through. I respect Yousef, his privacy and his message, as I do the other Intel providers. I'm grateful for their willingness to be a target while they bring us through this journey. I'm grateful that Yousef helped to ground me, to remind me not to get caught up in the craziness of the ride, but to remember why I chose to walk this path and who i want to help.
artesano:
Well said Skysister. We're all in this ride together even those in the back of the bus causing occasional discord.
I enjoy taking a deep breath and envision the good that we will do.
TERP1:
Admin Bill I don't post often but I am in total agreement with all your points well said!!!
Thanks to: http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com
