Virologist Dr. Poornima Wagh With Dr. Lee Merritt: “It’s Not Just Virology That’s a Scam

Virologist Dr. Poornima Wagh With Dr. Lee Merritt:  “It’s Not Just Virology That’s a Scam. Most of Pathology Is Actually Fraudulent.” “People Are Waking Up Very Quickly.” “I Think This Is the Beginning of a Tsunami.”
 
“the most important video that I’ve done since Covid”.  All show notes are provided by TCTL to highlight key points in their conversation.  We also share three other videos below that give some background on who Dr. Poornima Wagh is, how she came to the perspective that she now shares, as well as what she and 18 other scientists have discovered about the covid vaccines. Special thanks to Sharon James for her help with research.
~ Kathleen Stilwell, TCTL editor]





[Video is available at Lee Merritt MD Rumble channel.]
 
Show Notes & Excerpts:
1.  Dr.  Lee Merritt asks Dr. Poornima Wagh to share about her background. Dr. Wagh starts with her education and then shares her first awakening to the unscientific foundation of virology — something that occurred while she was working in a microbiology lab and before she studied for her PhD in virology.
Dr. Merritt:
This is the most important video that I’ve done since Covid. I’m sharing this without editing because I think you need to get a feel for the depth of knowledge of the guest…
Dr. Wagh:
I started working in my dad’s lab. My dad worked for Pfizer… for almost 28 years in R&D, in research and development, in India. I was born and brought up in India. And I came to this country when I was 18 in April of 1991. But I started working in my dad’s lab when I was 13…



… I moved to Santa Barbara and I enrolled myself in classes at Santa Barbara City College. And Judy Evans Meyer, who was the head of the microbiology and cell biology lab, hired me. And that was the best part of my life… She thought outside the box and she always said, ‘You know, I have a real problem with virology. Virology and even most of bacteriology is just crapola.’
She would always say that. And I said, ‘But Judy, you know, you’re a microbiologist. And she said, ‘Yeah, I know, but you know I’m a coal miner’s daughter from Pittsburgh and I have more common sense than most people in academia.’ And she would push us to to look outside the box constantly. So I became, from a lab tech, I ended up becoming a lab scientist in her lab…
I had enough lab in experience under my belt that what I was seeing in lab experimentation and what I was seeing in the textbooks was entirely different. And I’m talking about bacteria and fungi. This is not even viruses yet…
… It’s not just virology that’s a scam. Much of pathology is also pretty much fairly fraudulent.
So I started seeing this and in 2009 my eyes really opened up because we started working on a project that Judy was working on with a few other scientists at University of California Santa Barbara. We were looking at Valley Fever, San Joaquin Valley Fever… It is supposedly caused by the spores of a fungus called coccidioides immitis. Now they have never isolated the spores of this fungus but supposedly the spores cause this disease, these symptoms. The symptoms are lung-based. You get pneumonia. You get labored breathing. You lose your sense of smell and taste. Fatigue. Fever. I mean pretty much like Covid. The same symptomology.
And we looked at soil samples in a hundred mile radius around Fresno and Bakersfield because that’s mostly where it was concentrated — in that belt there where they grow a lot of vegetables and it’s very arid. We did this for 2.5 years. We looked at soil samples. We looked at water samples. I mean, you name it. And we also then looked at lung samples from patients that were given to us and sort of did these isolation studies.
The isolation studies are identical to how you do them and in virology — the same procedure, the filtration, centrifugation, looking at it under a microscope and doing the Koch’s postulates. And we didn’t find anything. We didn’t find any spores, we didn’t find any fungal hyphae. And fungi are much bigger — between one micrometer to 13 micrometers. You can actually look at them under a compound or a light microscope…
It’s not just the soil. We did the toxicology. We sent the soils to a toxicologist in LA — I mean repeatedly. I think we sent 200 different samples at different times. They didn’t find anything in there. They should have been able to find something like spores or hyphae or whatever. Then, our lab, we looked at actually the lung samples because coccidioidomycosis is a lung disease caused by, supposedly, the spores of this fungus.
Dr. Merritt:
So you could see the lesions where the theoretical coccidioidomycosis…
Dr. Wagh:
You could see that but you couldn’t you couldn’t tell that the spores were causing because there’s nothing to find — there was no fungal residue.
Dr. Merritt:
It was just dead cells in those lesions or…
Dr. Wagh:
RNA DNA but it was all human RNA DNA… no presence of any fungi.
And so we reported this to the California Health Services and they said, ‘Oh no, we know it does. Sometimes you just can’t find it.’ What does that mean? I mean you can find it if it’s not there…
Dr. Merritt:
In 200 samples.
Dr. Wagh:
Yeah, I mean we looked at so many samples. I think that soil samples were 200 samples and human samples are probably 75 plus samples over a period of time. And this went on for 2.5 years. This was not a small thing. I mean we did this repeatedly in the course of 2.5 years that I worked there…
And Judy says, ‘You know, I bet you this is from the methyl bromide that they’re using on strawberries and all the other crops there’.
And we tested methyl bromide. We sent it to the same toxicology lab in LA and they said, ‘Yeah, there’s a 500% increase in the amount of methyl bromide they were using. And methyl bromide has been banned in California but farmers still use it because it’s very effective. You know, they they dust a bunch of strawberries.
Dr. Merritt:
You think the dust was getting in there lungs?
Dr. Wagh:
Yeah and that’s what the toxicology lab ended up saying. It’s the dust that gets in, the particulate gets into people’s lungs and they have these symptoms. And it spreads through the through the air.
2. Dr. Merritt asks for clarification on typical lab procedures when doctors send samples out to labs for analysis. They discuss how computerization has replaced real lab work. Dr. Merritt shares her research into PCR test results.
Dr. Wagh:
What ends up happening is they find either bacteria or fungus at the site. But the fungi and bacteria are the clean up crew. You always find them. They’re in our bodies anyway. But then they’re using all of these antibiotics and antimycotics. Exactly what they do in virology they do in pathology.
I’m not making this up…
The predicated stuff in virology is from pathology and medical microbiology. It just moved over. It’s the same kind of isolation studies that they do. And then they say, ‘Oh look, this is causing the disease.’
Dr. Merritt:
How about fresh smears?… So let’s say you took those lesions out of a lung. Haven’t people looked at fresh smears and seen something like mycelia or anything? No?
Dr. Wagh:
No. I have looked at so many. Again, all you need is the light microscope because fungi and bacteria are big enough you can see it at 30X even at 100X…
There’s movement there but that that doesn’t mean there’s disease.
You have to prove… and then you have to do Koch’s postulates… In microbiology they stopped doing Koch’s postulates altogether.
Most of microbiology, pathology, virology have all become a field of bioinformatics. They do genome sequencing.
They don’t do anything the old fashioned way like they used to do in the thirties or forties. I mean literally, with bioinformatics in the last 30 years, bioinformatics has completely changed the biology. Everything is now done on the computer. Most microbiologists… they don’t do much in the lab. They just do everything on the computer…
Dr. Merritt:
Yeah, which removes you from reality.
So just for the audience… bioinformatics is the ability to take the code of the genome — God’s given amino acid code that’s like AGCT for the different amino acid… nucleotide sequence. And then, convert them to digits like zeros and ones, and then you can computerize the whole genome, and then you can play with it all you want on the computer.
Dr. Wagh:
Yeah, you can sequence… They do short sequences, long sequences depending on how you want to do the sequences, and then you just sort of tape them together. I think that’s what they call the de novo alignment kind of sequencing.
3. Dr. Merritt questions whether or not the human genome has actually been sequenced. They discuss whether genetic-focused vaccines are actually possible. 
Dr. Merritt:
Let’s back up in time. Do you think that they, I mean did they sequence the human genome?… [Here she mentions a specific paper documenting work at MIT] … This is the guy that’s got to be one of the world’s leaders in the ability to manipulate the genetic material…
And it actually says we can’t really — when they talk about gene splicing — we can’t really do that. What we can do is delete genes.
Dr. Wagh:
CRISPR CAT9 comes from bacteria. When they were using… penicillin based antibiotics, what was happening is a lot of the bacteria were using an enzyme called beta lactamase, essentially to resist the effects of the antibiotic. And CRISPR CAT9 technology — they picked it up from the beta lactamase enzyme. It is beta lactamase enzyme activity that causes the CAT9 part. CRISPR is, I think, the cutting and the CAT9 is the pasting and so on. But they don’t know how how the bacteria do it. They have no idea. It’s so limited. This is what I mean.
Nature is so elegant and so complex. These people, they think they’re gods. They have a god complex. They will never figure it out. We don’t know how these mechanisms really work.
Dr. Merritt:
So I can believe that… what they’re really doing is — they’re using toxins…
What it sounds like you’re telling me is… what it could be is the whole genetic thing could be nonsense and what they’re doing is just giving you a toxic nanoparticle…
Dr. Wagh:
Yeah… so either a synthetic chemical, like a synthetic lipid nanoparticle with a bunch of nanoparticles in it — like in this case they used graphene oxide…
That’s all they can do. They do not have the ability to tweak biological… It’s not possible. We’ve tried and tried and tried and tried. It doesn’t work that way.
How do you take a virus which is 70 to 80 nanometers in size, hollow it out, and put up a load in there? I mean how do you do that? I mean you can’t even see a virus.
Dr. Merritt:
What they can do is they can transmit plasmids… We know that they transmitted these plasmids back and forth… to create antibiotic resistance… We can now harvest those plasmids and inject them into things.
They can do single nucleotide replacement… They can change these things but they can’t they do precise insertion into the human genome.
Dr. Wagh:
Yes. And all of this nonsense, the BS that we’ve been told — that we have all this technology to weaponize stuff and all. No.
5.  Dr. Merritt and Dr. Wagh have both concluded that SARS-CoV-2 is computer magic. It does not exist. They discuss short sequences and spike proteins. Dr. Merritt questions S1 subunits of SARS-CoV-2 that are sold on the internet. They challenge the idea that we are able to manipulate biology when we don’t understand how it works.
Dr. Merritt:
I’ve been saying this 30,000 base pairs SARS-CoV-2 is just BS… That’s just computer nonsense.
Dr. Wagh:
It’s computer magic.
Dr. Merritt:
They claim that the S1 subunit — and they actually sell it on the internet — the S1 subunit of SARS-C0V-2. ..
If they can sequence backwards — if they can take something and genetically sequence things, can they then reproduce short sequences? Or isolate short sequences?
Dr. Wagh:
They could isolate them. However, I don’t think those sequences doing anything.
I mean, remember everything works in tandem in our body. I mean, even proteins work in tandem with everything else in our body. You can’t just isolate a protein and put it into somebody else and then expect it to do some some kind of magic…
It is very difficult to do anything with biological stuff…
This is why they use chemical toxins and… lipid nanoparticles and stuff. They have to poison you some way. Now, they can do that with chemistry. You can’t do it with biology. Biology is a whole different ball game…
They can chemically alter stuff. Synthetically alter stuff. Biological proteins? DNA and RNA? I don’t think so. ..We cannot because we don’t even understand biology.
In order to manipulate something, you have to understand how it works. I mean, truly understand how it works.
6. They continue the discussion about what is actually done in all these labs, including the role of government funding in creating an environment where nonsense studies are insisted upon. 
Dr. Wagh:
You ask me what do they do in labs. They spend money on nonsense… This is where they spend all the money from NIH or NSF, whatever. All the grant money goes on nonsensical research. I kid you not because I was in the lab. I know…
Dr. Merritt:
When you say this kind of stuff like there are no viruses, it’s just bioinformatics and nonsense — they they say ‘What are all those graduate students doing? Yes, you might have the bad guys on the top that are lying that know there are no viruses but keep the pharmaceutical vaccine industry going, but what about those graduate students?’…
Dr. Wagh:
The graduate students are completely hoodwinked and brainwashed… This is what graduate students and postdocs do, okay. They need a job. They have to hang on there. They know that the experiments are nonsense because I wasn’t the only one asking these questions…
Everybody just kind of falls in line because you need a job, you you need work… at some point you go stick yourself into some university lab… be slave labor for 4, 5, 6 years. Get a really good recommendations from your principal investigator and then maybe you’ll climb the ladder. Most of the grad students just want to be professors, so then they have a cushy job where they just have a lab of their own, and then they do the same thing to other slave labor (which is other grad students as they come through). This is what has been happening for the last 50 to 60 plus years in almost every single lab, not just in this country but abroad.
… In science it is a rat race. It truly is. If you think like everybody else then you’ll get a job. You have your own lab… you can be the next generation slave driver.
You cannot do anything without an NIH grant. And I don’t mean just the funding for the state universities — the public universities, even Stanford gets 90 percent of its funding. Although it’s a private university. Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Cornell… All of these — they get funding from the NIH, so then you’re beholden to what the NIH tells you to do. If you don’t do what the NIH tells you to do, you ain’t gonna get any funding. They’ll just ax you. They’ll close down your lab. And most of the time it’s the university that closes down the lab.
Dr. Merritt:
That’s why I say Fauci is essentially the bag man of this mob because he controls — just like a bag man in the mob, if you don’t do what they say, they threaten to break your legs.
In this case, if you don’t use Remdesivir and if you talk outside the protocols that the NIH and CDC have set up for covid, we’re going to take your funding. And that’s not just at the universities… It’s at the university hospitals; it’s at other hospitals… The same people who control the NIH control the Department of Health and Human Services that fund Medicare. So, if you don’t give all your people these these toxic vaccines, we’re not going to give you your Medicare dollars.
7. Dr. Wagh shares how she got into the fields of virology and immunology. This led to a conversation about the lack of evidence that HIV exists and what really causes the symptoms called AIDS. Dr. Merritt questioned the term “emerging infectious diseases” that is often heard in virology.
Dr. Wagh discusses vitamin B deficiencies in the disease known as malaria. They discuss the damage to the immune system caused by vaccines and what might actually be causing the symptoms seen in so-called monkey pox. Dr. Wagh shares a story about curing a large uterine tumor with serrapeptase, nattokinase, high doses of vitamin D3, K2 and cofactors.  (Go to approximate time stamp 57:00 for details on Dr. Wagh’s protocol.)
Dr. Merritt shares her experience as a spine surgeon with women who have spinal fractures, noting that it’s not osteoporosis a lot of times it’s osteomalacia or vitamin D deficiency. Dr. Wagh mentions an article that was retracted — found at retractionwatch.com.
Dr. Wagh:
It was like swallowing a crown of thorns because I got along with just one professor. Everybody else I was constantly arguing…
My thesis was not in virology but in malaria research… They said malaria patients had coinfections with HIV virus — HIV and AIDS… I was like ‘What are you talking about? There’s nothing called HIV.’ …
I finally defended my thesis… Essentially I said that HIV doesn’t exist and… we don’t even know if malaria is actually caused by the Plasmodium species — we have to look into that. That was my thesis.
They did not like the fact that I was questioning HIV. And, I mean, they were just completely shocked. ‘What kind of a student does this kind of thing? Why are you even here if you’re questioning… this consensus. We’ve already proven this exists.’
Dr. Merritt:
I realized that up until the mid eighties when I was a resident, I never heard the term “emerging infectious diseases”. And I’ve subsequently come to believe that “emerging infectious diseases” is a term they use to cover up the effects of their bioweapons programs in third world countries…
My pediatric professor told us in a lecture my first year medical school at the University of Rochester, New York — he said ‘Vaccines didn’t stop childhood diseases. Plumbers did.‘ And his point was it’s sanitation and nutrition.
All of the poxes are probably the same idea — that there are toxins coming out.
8.  Dr. Wagh shares her work with 18 other people in examining the contents of the covid vaccines. [Listen at approximately 1 for Dr. Wagh’s explanation of what she has found in the vaccines.]
Dr. Wagh’s group is testing international versions of the covid vaccines as well as those used in the US. She mentions an upcoming video with Regis (Regis Tremblay) where she shares their findings. She has since completed that video “The Jab – It’s Poison and Will Kill You”. You can find it below these notes.
They talk about the scam of vaccination.  Dr. Wagh mentions Eleanor McBean’s book “The Poisoned Needle — Suppressed Facts About Vaccination“. You can read and download the book here. [Find their discussion of the vaccination scam at approximately 1].
Dr. Wagh:
I’ve been testing the vaccine personally…there’s no difference, okay? It’s the same platform… synthetic lipid nanoparticle, hydrogel, and reduced graphene oxide. There’s no mRNA, there’s no spike protein coded to the mRNA. Nothing. I mean zippo.
And massive amounts of heavy metal contamination — tungsten, osmium, silica, a lot of silver and gold particles… they have nickel, some amounts of lead…  a lot of aluminum– massive amounts of aluminum in there. And all this stuff is very stable, you know. When you put that into the human body… it causes  it causes irritation and inflammation. That’s what’s causing all these vascular problems that you’re seeing, the blood vessel problems. And the graphene oxide has a very weak, extremely weak, positive bioelectric charge. And everything in our body, especially the heart and the brain, are negatively charged. This short circuits everything and through the inflammatory process you’re short circuiting everything. And so you die.
I’m not the only one working. We have 18 people including me… So I’m working with all these people. There’s two in Russia, there’s two in Australia, one in New Zealand, three — now we have four I think in Argentina, one in Shanghai, China… an MD, PhD (pediatrician)… in Mexico City.  And all these people are testing all the vaccines… We’ve got two Indians now…
The mRNA vaccines have no mRNA. They have no spike protein…They have no viral vectors in them.
We’ve tested 2, 300 vaccines… We haven’t found any differences in the vaccines at all. What we have found is there’s 35 different variations depending on what extra or less they put in there.
If you’ve got a very lethal dose of reduced graphene oxide you usually die within a few weeks, a few months. So it just depends on the dosage that there’s in there…
But the platform is the same. It’s all chemical crap that they’re putting in there…
So how many generations of Americans is that they have received vaccinations? I’d say maybe 100 to 120 years of just vaccine damage. And you pass it on from one generation to another. On top of that you’re getting EMFs from all over the place, you’re getting radio waves from all over the place. The food is bad. The food is contaminated. The water’s severely contaminated…
9. They discuss what vaccine developers can and cannot do. Dr. Wagh mentions the work of British biologist Harold Hillman. [See “Modern Medicine: A Castle Built on Sand?” for more about the work of Harold Hillman.]
They question the use of mRNA and whether or not DNA has actually been found. They discuss the work of Barbara McClintock and her discovery of transposons (jumping genes). 
They talk of  French naturalist Jean-Baptiste Lamarck’s theory of adaptation.  They share ideas about what exosomes could be in the context of the human body’s adaptation to environmental changes.
Dr. Merritt:
So we can sequence to find stuff. We just can’t manipulate it…
Dr. Wagh:
Correct. And the payload carriers are always bacterial plasmids, in every case… They have figured out how to use plasmids. But, other than that, they haven’t figured out anything…
Dr. Merritt:
I feel like there’s –and this comes from my belief that we’re being run by the dark occult (and occult just means hidden) —  that there’s a group of people that know all this. They know how this works. They hide two things from us. They hide our psychologic makeup and they hide the way the world works. Same thing with scalar energy and lots of things…
Dr. Wagh:
That whole ideology of DNA makes RNA makes protein doesn’t work because it goes the other direction. Transposons move stuff. They move stuff from here, clip it over there. So they take RNA, clip it over here. They take DNA clip it over here. They take proteins and clip it somewhere else.
…It’s not a genotype. It’s essentially a phenotype. Phenotypes change, depending on these transposon changes in your body. And we don’t even bother to look at it. We call it genetic sequencing and this and that, and whatever else. You know, why don’t we really look at the real science?
…That’s probably why they don’t do anything on it because they can’t weaponize it…
These culprits, the parasites who are running the show, they probably know a lot of this stuff. The only thing they don’t know is how to manipulate the stuff. They know it exists. They just don’t know how. Thank God, because if they could manipulated we’d be in a lot of doo doo.
Dr. Merritt:
They can’t really bring off these aerosolized diseases, so now what are they studying? Arthropod vector disease. So they realized if they can’t get us to run out and take injections, they’ll get insects to inject us with this crap.
Dr. Wagh:
Our bodies are very, very intelligent… Everything in nature is very intelligent. Everything has a place. And you can’t just change that just because you feel you have a god complex.
10. [Approximately 1] The conversation shifts to what we know about the nature of the universe, scalar energy, how cells communicate and more.  Dr. Wagh mentions Dr. Rupert Sheldrake’s book “The Science Delusion”. 
They touched on the work of American inventor Royal Rife where he saw that “viruses” are a stage of bacteria. They shared other examples of flawed science in declaring the cause of cholera and legionnaires disease.
Dr. Wagh:
…Biology got corrupted because physics got corrupted with quantum mechanics.  Anything with quantum in it is bullshit. Okay, quantum mechanics, quantum financial system, quantum computing — it’s all B.S.
We live in an electro magnetic universe. It’s mostly electric. I’m going the Tesla direction instead of the einsteinium Shrodinger model. Okay? So quantum mechanics destroyed physics, which destroyed chemistry — because you got the P. orbitals and the S. orbitals in chemistry — and then that bled into biology and destroyed biology altogether. So  the hard sciences are completely hijacked and corrupted.
Dr. Merritt:
Let’s suppose cells can communicate with each other and in ways that we don’t completely know — but it does seem to be scalar.
Dr. Wagh:
We don’t understand anything… What we’re taught is just mechanistic. There is no holistic perspective to it… [mentions “The Science Delusion” by Rupert Sheldrake] … The morphogenetic field, consciousness and all of that, it makes complete sense.
Dr. Merritt:
[Dr. Merritt reads a quote from Tesla.]
“Alpha waves in the human brain are between 6 and 8 hertz. The wave frequency of the human cavity resonates between 6 and 8 hertz. All biological systems operate in the same frequency range. The human brain’s alpha waves function in this range and the electrical resonance of the earth is between 6 and 8 hertz. Thus, our entire biological system – the brain and the earth itself – work on the same frequencies. If we can control that resonate system electronically, we can directly control the entire mental system of humankind.”
~ Nicola Tesla
It may be that’s what they’re trying to do.
Dr. Wagh:
So it’s a split program of depopulation and what’s left over is going to be controlled. That’s the plan. I still don’t think their plans are gonna work. It doesn’t work that way…
A lot of us have not taken the vaccines. We’re not going to give in…
Now people are waking up. So they’re on their last leg…
They’re desperate. They have something to cover the jab damage…
Dr. Merritt:
The idea that you’re a conspiracy theorist, I’ve decided, that just means you can have pattern recognition… I think the beauty of humans is we can think around the corner like you’ve obviously been doing your whole life. And that’s what’s made a difference.
Dr. Wagh:
In a way, covid it actually is a silver lining because if it hadn’t happened we’d still be doing the same rinse and repeat… It was brewing under the surface… Now it just erupted. People can see everything and people are waking up very quickly.
Literally all of civilization is a sham. Our histories, all of paleontology, everything we know about the solar system, how the universe works.
… I mean, we’re gonna have to figure out what is humanity. Where did we come from? Who are we?…
What is our history? What is our legacy?
Dr. Merritt:
Just look at the progress we’ve made in two years understanding things… For how many years did people labor in private, in their lab, saying it’s all nonsense? And now the whole world is waking up to the fact that they’ve been lied to.
Dr. Wagh:
Everything we’ve been told so far is usually one truth and ten lies.  It’s all window dressing.
I don’t have these conversations often.
Dr. Merritt:
It’s not just gonna be cries the wilderness. I think this is the beginning of a tsunami…
If we all stand up, they can’t make a sit down.
 
About Dr. Lee Merritt: Dr. Lee Merritt began her medical career at the age of four, carrying her father’s “black bag” on housecalls, along the back roads of Iowa. In 1980 she graduated from the University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry in New York, where she was elected to life membership in the Alpha Omega Alpha Honor Medical Society. Dr. Merritt completed an Orthopaedic Surgery Residency in the United States Navy and served 9 years as a Navy physician and surgeon before returning to Rochester, where she was the only woman to be appointed as the Louis A. Goldstein Fellow of Spinal Surgery.
 
About Dr. Poornima Wagh:
Dr. Poornima Wagh Talks About Her Background & What She Is Doing Now
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Questioning Virologist Dr. Poornima Wagh’s Credentials
 
Truth Comes to Light editor’s note: Yesterday we posted an interview between Dr. Lee Merritt and Dr. Poornima Wagh. They shared a powerful conversation and, for many, much of it resonated as true. Was everything Dr. Wagh said true? That’s something that is being investigated by a number of people. Verifying Dr. Poornima Wagh’s credentials has come to be an issue and, as it should, is bringing up a lot of questions. Reporter Eric Coppolino shared about his attempts to verify her background at his substack account today. Read that article below. We will present further information as it becomes available. 
Everything posted on this site is done in the spirit of conversation. Please do your own research and trust yourself when reading and when giving consideration to anything that appears here or anywhere else.
 
Charlatan’s Web
Our search for the scientific credentials of the latest ‘covid truth’ celeb turns up nothing. Poornima Wagh claims to have worked on analysis of 756 samples proving SARS-CoV-2 does not exist. Did she?
by Eric F. Coppolino
August 30, 2022
 
SOMEONE CLAIMING TO HOLD TWO DOCTORATES from the world-renowned London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine is the latest sensation of the health freedom movement — distinctive because she claims to be an accredited virologist who states declaratively that SARS-CoV-2 does not exist.
Wagh claims to have participated in a massive laboratory project in early 2020 that attempted to sequence 756 samples of lung fluid taken from supposedly “covid”-positive patients in California — only to find that none of them contained any such virus particles whatsoever.
For the growing number of people who assert that SARS-CoV-2 has never been isolated and cannot be tested for, she is a dream come true — a scientific unicorn providing long sought-after vindication.
What is different here is that the “no virus” side of the discussion is generally stating that various genetic sequences have been falsely declared as belonging to “SARS-CoV-2” in computer simulations. These are hypothetical “genomes,” called in silico sequences, that have never been shown to match an actual virus or cause disease. Wagh is saying that they couldn’t even find those theoretical sequences in their hundreds of samples, much less whole virus particles.
Meanwhile, more than two hundred governments and institutions around the world deny having any record of a sample of SARS-CoV-2 taken from a human host. If what she is saying is true, Wagh provides a critical layer of validation of this position — and she is being welcomed with open arms by the health freedom or “covid” truth movement.
In addition to having extraordinary public support for a scientific dissident, significant public presenters are noticing Wagh. For example, Dr. Lee Merritt, when introducing Wagh in an Aug. 17 video, said the interview was “the most important video she had done” since the covid crisis began.
She has been interviewed numerous times by vlogger Regis Tremblay, with one video getting more than 63,000 views so far.
After a webinar presentation held Sunday, Aug. 28, her co-panelist Reiner Füllmich was so impressed that he invited her to appear before his well-known and widely-respected Corona Investigative Committee. Like many mainstream “covid” truth organizations, this panel has a tendency to be hostile to the no-virus position — but they are open to her. It’s as if she’s the presenter everyone has been waiting for.
Despite the credible efforts of many doctors and scientists during the past 30 months of the crisis, Poornima Wagh is now being held up as the official whistle-blowing insider scientist with long-awaited, irrefutable proof that no SARS-CoV-2 virus exists.
The Questions Nobody’s Been Asking Until Now
There is just one problem.
Is everything she is saying true? Did she really earn two simultaneous doctorates from the London School of Tropical Medicine, one in virology and one in immunology, in under four years?
Did she really play a key role on a team that attempted de novo sequencing of 756 samples of lung fluid taken from “covid” patients suffering from pneumonia, finding no viral material whatsoever — as she has repeatedly claimed?
Did she really do her doctoral work at one of the most prestigious medical institutes in the world — which research concluded that HIV infection does not exist?
It seems that until now, none of the people who have interviewed her have made any effort to verify or corroborate her claims, nor has anyone attempted to vet her doctoral degrees or work history prior to putting her on the air.
Introducing her recently, a website calling itself “Exposé News” wrote, “We were unable to find a biography for Wagh using the usual search engines but she provided a summary at the beginning of her presentation.”
That was their total vetting process — and it would seem that of everyone else who has run her up the flagpole.
The Search for Wagh’s Claimed Ph.D.s
Wagh is claiming dual Ph.D.s in virology and immunology, both granted  simultaneously by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, in December 2016. These claimed advanced degrees — which would be a precious professional commodity — do not so much as appear on any CV or résumé that we have found. Further, Wagh claims to be unemployed.
In a recent interview with Planet Waves FM, Wagh hedged on admitting the exact title of her claimed doctoral thesis, only giving its approximate topic — “malaria and HIV co-infection.” She said this one paper was the basis of not one but two Ph.D. degrees, which she claims were both awarded in December 2016.
But after exhaustive searches over the past six weeks, not one reference to her doctoral credentials can be found. All that exists is a CV which claims undergraduate work and a master’s degree in finance, and résumés which claim she has taken undergrad science courses and worked in laboratories as a technician.
Regarding access to her claimed doctoral thesis, Wagh told Planet Waves FM, “It should be available in the library.”
“They are downloadable as documents,” agreed Dr. Kevin Corbett of London, who did his doctoral work on HIV testing and its sociological impact, and has chaired the oral examinations for several Ph.D. candidates. He is familiar with the British system of advanced education, in which he has participated for a generation. Hear the full interview.
The Thesis Should be in the British Library
“Normally, when you gain the award in the UK of a Ph.D, the thesis or both theses will be available on an archive catalog, usually within the college archive or online archive and/or within the British Library’s online archive,” Corbett added.
“I was very interested in reading them but I actually couldn’t find them listed. And other people have tried to find them as well,” he added.
No record of her thesis or her name can be found in the British Library, which is the repository of all doctoral dissertations and theses in England. Corbett said he searched both by her name, and for all papers dealing with the topics of both malaria and HIV, and found nothing associated with her.
“It is quite important to have a look at this,” he added, saying that just because you can’t find it doesn’t mean that the thesis does not exist. “One thing is certain, which is that you don’t earn two Ph.D.s with only one thesis. The same thesis couldn’t have been used for two Viva Voce exams. Impossible.” The Viva Voce — Latin for ‘live voice’ — is the in-person oral committee examination where a doctoral candidate defends their thesis.
Additionally, Planet Waves FM could find no record of any peer-reviewed publications by “Dr. Poornima Wagh,” or any other scientific paper anywhere that cited her work.
Background in Finance, Accounting — and as a Lab Tech
Wagh’s admitted background is in finance, though she also claims to have worked as a clinical lab scientist from 2005-2019 at two different universities, one in Texas and one in California. That is possible, as she knows some laboratory jargon.
Planet Waves FM investigators, working independently of Corbett, could find no trace of Wagh’s claimed doctoral work. And Wagh has not responded to subsequent requests from Planet Waves FM for the exact title and proper citation of her thesis.
She claimed that her thesis concluded that HIV infection did not exist because there was no published paper that made the connection between HIV and AIDS. (This assertion was famously stated many times in the past by PCR-inventor Kary Mullis.)
And she added that she proved that malaria was caused by vitamin deficiency rather than by a protozoa, the latter held to be established science. She did not explain the nature of the research on which her claimed thesis was based.
Referring to the theory of thesis claiming that HIV does not cause AIDS, I asked, “People lose their labs and reputations for this. How did you get past that?”
Says Faculty Member ‘Pulled Strings’ For Her
“I didn’t get past it,” she said.
After stammering for a few moments, she added: “I literally was not going to get my Ph.D.,” continuing, “I had one professor pull some strings for me because they were not happy with what I was even presenting. It was very completely unscientific in their opinion, if not complete bullshit and utter crap. So, and I said to them, ‘If you don’t want to give me a Ph.D., that’s fine, I’ll just leave’. This is [my] Ph.D. thesis. If you don’t want to accept it, that’s fine by me.”
Then she added, “They just wanted me gone.”
Yet she says that on this basis — with the intervention of a member of the faculty behind the scenes — she was granted not one but two simultaneous doctorates from the most prestigious institution of its kind in the world.
Additionally, we can find no version of her CV that cites her Ph.D.s; she only lists her educational background in finance. She claims that her BSc in finance was granted from Salisbury University in Maryland in 1995; and that her MBA in finance and economics was granted from the University of Alaska at Fairbanks in 2000.
Neither her undergraduate nor master’s degrees are listed as being in any scientific field. That would render it nearly impossible to get into a hard-science program like London Hygiene, or anywhere. Her LinkedIn page states only that she was an accounting project manager at the Pacific Capital Bancorp and related experience.
Wagh does not like to be questioned about her credentials, which are the pride of most scholars.
She wrote in an Aug. 27 email to a prominent medical doctor who has pioneered the virus existence issue, obtained by Planet Waves FM, that our asking her for the title of her Ph.D. thesis was like “interrogating a criminal who had committed a crime.”
“I spoke with him on the phone and I was SEVERELY grilled like I was perhaps a criminal or a fraud by his standards on the phone for over 30 minutes. This phone call happened yesterday at around 1:30 pm California time. I was very shocked with the questions asked and the tone taken in the call,” she wrote in her Aug. 27 email to the doctor.
Lab Methods and ‘Patient Zero’
She was referring to a Planet Waves FM interview conducted Friday, Aug. 26. In that discussion, Wagh said that in April 2020, she worked in a university laboratory that received 1,500 samples of bronchoalveolar-lavage fluid (BALF) purportedly taken from pneumonia patients in California, all of whom had allegedly tested “positive” for SARS-CoV-2 using the standard PCR test.
This is an enormous cohort for a virus isolation project, by any measure.
She said that under a grant from a university in Texas, the California lab was given the task of isolating intact SARS-CoV-2 from a human host.
She would not identify any of the institutions involved, claiming she was afraid of being sued. She also claimed that the principal investigator on the study she worked on — her boss, who ran the project — had mysterously died in Costa Rica several days ago, in late August 2022. She did not give the person’s name.
If her principal investigator is dead, that also means she cannot be contacted to confirm or deny Wagh’s claims.
Wagh also said that two other people who had worked on the team had also died, which she considered suspicious. And finally, she has claimed in several interviews that the FBI raided the lab and seized all the papers and computers associated with the virus isolation study.
Wagh said that the lab where she worked had individually analyzed 756 of the 1,500 samples, but could not isolate a particle that could be characterized as SARS-CoV-2. All they could find was “random cellular debris.” She went onto say that when sequenced, this did not match the genome for “Patient Zero.”
When pressed for who exactly “Patient Zero” was — that is, which hypothetical genome she was matching against — she did not know. “Patient Zero” is not a term used in the SARS-CoV-2 crisis.
Rather, in the history of virology, it is a direct reference to the first (falsely) claimed AIDS patient, Gaetan Dugas, who was said to have gone on to personally infect all of North America. Historically, the thing about “Patient Zero” is that he did not exist; the story was not true. And the term has never been used again.
“I don’t know much. I just know there’s one patient. There’s actually 10 patients but only one patient they did the lung lavage on, apparently.”
Wagh Did Not Know Multiple Genomes Existed
“I didn’t know there were two genomes. I thought there was just one,” she said. But in fact, by late January 2020, there were 28 published theoretical or in silico sequences for SARS-CoV-2.
And Christian Drosten’s team in Germany used half a dozen different sequences to design their PCR protocol that was then published by the World Health Organization in mid-January. Currently, about 12 million claimed genomes of “SARS-CoV-2” are deposited into the GISAID.org genetic library.
While this is not common public knowledge, one would expect a double Ph.D. working on a major viral isolation project associated with this specific virus “to know this information cold,” said Mike Donio, a molecular biologist who has worked for 20 years in industry and academic laboratory settings.
Donio said that a lab would not run the samples individually in a process like this, as Wagh claimed, but rather run them in batches. “The goal was to find the virus particle, not to diagnose an individual case,” Donio said. “Labs often do batch analysis,” especially if time and money are an issue. “If they needed to go back and figure out which sample it came from, that could be done in a second step.”
Donio was also critical of Wagh’s claim of de novo sequencing of what she called “random cellular debris” from these samples, which she said did not align with any prior sequences. This, she said, proved that the virus does not exist.
“Who cares if you just end up with cellular debris?” Donio asked. “Of course you are going to have tons of genetic material in from the cells as they break down. It’s more than enough to assemble whatever kind of genome you want. It would be more shocking to find no sequences or no RNA [to match the alleged SARS-CoV-2 genome] in such a pool.”
Wagh said that the team that did the purported study of the 756 samples had prepared a formal scientific paper reporting the result that they could not find the SARS-CoV-2 virus. But she said the paper, which survived the claimed FBI raid that took all of the other records, has not been published. Planet Waves FM asked her for a copy of the paper, or at least the methodology section — but she did not provide it.
The Need to Question Experts
“If one presents their credentials and expertise front and center as a claim to the credibility of the information that they are presenting, it is our duty to verify that these credentials and experience exist and are in fact valid,” said Mike Stone, author of the ViroLIEgy.com website, which exposes fraudulent practices in the study of claimed viruses, and the entire field of virology.
“We must always be willing to examine all experts and their claims thoroughly using critical thought, logic, and discernment in order to make an educated and informed opinion,” Stone added.
In an email sent to Wagh Monday morning, Aug. 29, I wrote: “Under the rules of journalistic fair play, which are our editorial policy, you are entitled to give your best defense in your own words to accusations made against you and your reputation. Our investigators can find no trace of your doctoral degrees, or your thesis or dissertation.”
Wagh did not respond.
— Additional Research: Cindy Tice Ragusa, Will Huston, Carol van Strum, Lanvi Nguyen.


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